Legislature(2007 - 2008)BUTROVICH 205

03/26/2007 01:30 PM Senate HEALTH, EDUCATION & SOCIAL SERVICES


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*+ SJR 3 MEDICARE RATES IN ALASKA TELECONFERENCED
Moved SJR 3 Out of Committee
*+ SB 98 DENTAL HYGIENISTS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
SENATE HEALTH, EDUCATION AND SOCIAL SERVICES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                               
                         March 26, 2007                                                                                         
                           1:34 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bettye Davis, Chair                                                                                                     
Senator Joe Thomas, Vice Chair                                                                                                  
Senator John Cowdery                                                                                                            
Senator Kim Elton                                                                                                               
Senator Fred Dyson                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATE JOINT RESOLUTION NO. 3                                                                                                   
Relating to the effect of Medicare rates on senior citizens'                                                                    
access to healthcare; and urging the United States Congress to                                                                  
increase Medicare rates for Alaska.                                                                                             
     MOVED SJR 3 OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 98                                                                                                              
"An Act relating to dental hygienists."                                                                                         
     HEARD AND HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SJR  3                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: MEDICARE RATES IN ALASKA                                                                                           
SPONSOR(s): SENATOR(s) WIELECHOWSKI                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
03/07/07       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
03/07/07       (S)       HES                                                                                                    
03/26/07       (S)       HES AT 1:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB  98                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: DENTAL HYGIENISTS                                                                                                  
SPONSOR(s): SENATOR(s) DAVIS                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
02/28/07       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/28/07       (S)       HES, L&C                                                                                               
03/26/07       (S)       HES AT 1:30 PM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
Senator Bill Wielechowski                                                                                                       
Alaska State Capitol                                                                                                            
Juneau, AK  99801-1182                                                                                                          
POSITION STATEMENT: Sponsor of SJR 3                                                                                          
                                                                                                                              
Karleen Jackson, Commissioner                                                                                                   
Department of Health and Social Services (DHSS)                                                                                 
Juneau, AK                                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT: Available for questions on SJR 3                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Tom Obermeyer, aide to Senator Davis                                                                                            
Juneau, AK                                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT: Presented SB 98 for the sponsor                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Gail Walton, member                                                                                                             
Alaska State Dental Hygienist Association                                                                                       
Wasilla, AK                                                                                                                     
POSITION STATEMENT: In support of SB 98                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Rena Bauer, Faculty Director                                                                                                    
Dental Hygiene Program                                                                                                          
University of Alaska Fairbanks                                                                                                  
Fairbanks, AK                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT: In support of SB 98                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mike Booth, President                                                                                                           
Alaska Dental Society                                                                                                           
Anchorage, AK                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT: In support of SB 98                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Jim Tulle, Executive Director                                                                                                   
Alaska Dental Society                                                                                                           
Anchorage, AK                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT: In support of SB 98                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Royann Royer, representing herself                                                                                              
Chugiak, AK                                                                                                                     
POSITION STATEMENT: In support of SB 98                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Glenn Martin, representing himself                                                                                              
Anchorage, AK                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT: In support of SB 98                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mary Cerney, representing herself                                                                                               
Fairbanks, AK                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT: In support of SB 98                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
David Logan, Legislative Chair                                                                                                  
Alaska Dental Society                                                                                                           
Juneau, AK                                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT: In support of SB 98                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Nathan Lukes, representing himself                                                                                              
Anchorage, AK                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT: In support of SB 98                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  BETTYE  DAVIS  called the  Senate  Health,  Education  and                                                             
Social Services  Standing Committee  meeting to order  at 1:34:34                                                             
PM. Present  at the  call to order  were Senators  Dyson, Thomas,                                                             
Elton, Cowdery, and Chair Davis.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                SJR  3-MEDICARE RATES IN ALASKA                                                                             
                                                                                                                              
CHAIR DAVIS announced SJR 3 to be under consideration.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI,  sponsor  of  SJR  3,  explained  that  it                                                               
regards  Medicare reimbursement  rates; 55,000  Alaskans rely  on                                                               
the federal program, which is  the largest health-care program in                                                               
the  country. The  resolution addresses  the  many Alaskans  with                                                               
inadequate coverage;  Medicare is  letting down many  citizens in                                                               
paying  less  than 50  percent  of  the  costs of  their  medical                                                               
treatment.  Seniors  must often  call  dozens  of doctors  before                                                               
finding one that  will treat them under Medicare.  The problem is                                                               
projected to only  get worse; the number of  Alaskans on Medicare                                                               
will  double in  future years.  If reimbursement  rates drop  any                                                               
further, doctors  will have to stop  accepting Medicare patients.                                                               
Military beneficiaries are being  adversely affected as well. The                                                               
Congressional Budget  Office projects a  loss of $240  million in                                                               
Medicare funding  Alaska between  2008 and  2015; the  problem in                                                               
Alaska is particularly bad because  the state has higher costs of                                                               
providing  medical  care  and  fewer  doctors,  and  the  funding                                                               
formula doesn't  take these factors  into account. Alaska  is the                                                               
only state in  which Medicare reimbursement rates  are even lower                                                               
than those  of Medicaid. The  joint resolution calls  on Congress                                                               
and the United States Department  of Health and Human Services to                                                               
address  this  crisis  by  rewriting  the  funding  formulas  for                                                               
Alaska; he urged the committee to join him in supporting SJR 3.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:38:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  DYSON asked  if the  same funding  situation applies  to                                                               
Medicaid.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI said that there  is a problem with Medicaid,                                                               
but  it  isn't  quite  as  extensive.  Medicare  is  particularly                                                               
troubled because  the funding rate  is 25 percent less  than that                                                               
of Medicaid; also the number of seniors is growing quickly.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DYSON asked why both  issues couldn't be addressed in one                                                               
resolution.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI said  that  the  committee could  certainly                                                               
decide to do so.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COWDERY  said that  the problem  with Medicaid  is mostly                                                               
the cost of drugs, and the  average wholesale prices are too high                                                               
and need to be brought to a reasonable level.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:42:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KARLEEN JACKSON,  Commissioner for  the Department of  Health and                                                               
Social  Services (DHSS),  thanked Senator  Wielechowski and  said                                                               
that  the only  way  to fix  this  problem is  to  work with  the                                                               
congressional delegation and the  federal government. She gave an                                                               
example  to  show  the  importance   of  improving  the  Medicare                                                               
program.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:44:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  THOMAS  said   that  he  hopes  to   see  insurance  and                                                               
pharmaceutical companies participate in finding a solution.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  COWDERY  moved  to  report SJR  3  from  committee  with                                                               
individual  recommendations and  attached  fiscal note(s).  There                                                               
being no objection, the motion carried.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
                    SB  98-DENTAL HYGIENISTS                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
CHAIR DAVIS announced SB 98 to be under consideration.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:46:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TOM  OBERMEYER, aide  to Senator  Davis, sponsor  of SB  98, said                                                               
that the bill will improve  the oral health care, overall health,                                                               
well-being, and  individual appearance  and comfort  of Alaskans.                                                               
It  allows   better  access  to  professionally   trained  dental                                                               
hygienists  and  expanded  services,   and  will  help  stem  the                                                               
epidemic  of  oral diseases  affecting  certain  segments of  the                                                               
population; similar bills have passed in other states.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
He  then explained  the process  for becoming  a licensed  dental                                                               
hygienist, and how the bill  will allow additional services to be                                                               
performed by hygienists  with prior board approval  and a minimum                                                               
of experience. The  committee substitute (CS) for  the bill makes                                                               
a few small changes.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:50:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  DAVIS said  that the  CS reflects  the differences  in the                                                               
companion house bill.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COWDERY moved to adopt  the proposed committee substitute                                                               
to  SB  98,  labeled  25-LS0670\C,  Version  C,  as  the  working                                                               
document of the committee.   There being no objection, the motion                                                               
carried.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  OBERMEYER  explained that  the  CS  takes into  account  the                                                               
differences in the house  bill, regarding licensing, observation,                                                               
and the approval of collaborative agreements.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:52:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELTON  asked why a  dental hygienist wouldn't need  to be                                                               
licensed in Alaska like a dentist would.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  OBERMEYER said  that the  board has  the final  word on  the                                                               
matter, and it generally oversees  assistants and examinations in                                                               
the  state.  There  are  substantial  training  and  examinations                                                               
involved in working in Alaska.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  ELTON said  that the  language  of the  bill mentions  a                                                               
national examining board,  and it seems that the  bill will allow                                                               
someone licensed anywhere in the country to practice in Alaska.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. OBERMEYER  replied that the  preface provides for  a required                                                               
endorsement by the Alaskan board  for someone wishing to practice                                                               
in the state.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DAVIS said that other  testifiers should be able to comment                                                               
on the issue.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COWDERY asked how many  other states have adopted similar                                                               
bills.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. OBERMEYER  replied that  at least four  others have  done so,                                                               
and cited statistics on each.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COWDERY  asked how many dental  hygienists graduate every                                                               
year from University of Alaska (UA) schools.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  OBERMEYER  said  that  the   he  knows  the  UA  program  is                                                               
competitive  and effectual,  but  he will  have  to research  its                                                               
graduation numbers.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:58:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GAIL  WALTON,  member  of  the   Alaska  State  Dental  Hygienist                                                               
Association  (ASDHA), said  that  UA Anchorage  has 12  graduates                                                               
each year, and  there's a UA Fairbanks  program under development                                                               
for 6 additional students. The program is two years long.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COWDERY asked if the program is sufficiently rigorous.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. WALTON said  that the number of hygienists  is sufficient but                                                               
could be  reviewed; regardless, currently  Alaskan needs  are not                                                               
being met.  Hygienists aren't allowed  to work  in nontraditional                                                               
settings  and aren't  being  used to  their  full potential.  The                                                               
ASDHA  supports  SB  98,  as   well  as  the  state  Oral  Health                                                               
Coalition.  She  clarified  that  hygienists  would  have  to  be                                                               
licensed in Alaska if moving from another state.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:02:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELTON  asked if there  are reciprocal  agreements between                                                               
Alaska and other states in terms of dental hygienist licensing.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS.  WALTON  replied  that  a  license for  each  state  must  be                                                               
obtained,  but the  board for  another state  would automatically                                                               
give  a hygienist  a license  if  they were  already licensed  in                                                               
Alaska. There are  some states that don't  allow credentials from                                                               
different licensing  boards; a license  would be issued  based on                                                               
completion  of an  accredited program,  passing  of the  regional                                                               
boards, or licensing  in another state. The board  would still be                                                               
able to refuse a license.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
She explained  that the  restorative function  of the  bill would                                                               
create  an  efficient  oral  health care  delivery  system  in  a                                                               
limited  amount of  time.  Local anesthesia  has  been in  Alaska                                                               
statue since 1981, with history  of required disciplinary action.                                                               
A  dentist is  still required  to diagnose  the patient's  needs;                                                               
whether  or  not  the  hygienists  will  be  able  to  administer                                                               
anesthesia remains  at the discretion  of the dentist.  This bill                                                               
will be allow for great  improvement in dental health services in                                                               
nursing homes,  hospitals, and  rural areas;  it will  reach many                                                               
individuals  needing  dental  care.  Similar  programs  in  other                                                               
states have been proven safe and effective.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:06:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RENA BAUER,  Faculty Director  of the  Dental Hygiene  Program at                                                               
the UA  Fairbanks campus, said  that all hygienists  are licensed                                                               
by the  state; each  hygienist has to  meet a  state's particular                                                               
criteria. She strongly  supports the bill which  will enhance the                                                               
UA's ability to attract students.  The class of January 2008 will                                                               
be  the first  dental hygienist  class at  the UA  Fairbanks. The                                                               
general  supervision of  anesthesia will  enhance the  ability to                                                               
serve  the rural  population in  the  state. She  added that  the                                                               
amount of graduates  from the UA system is based  on the American                                                               
Dental    Association's    requirement     for    a    one-to-six                                                               
student/instructor ratio.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:10:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COWDERY  asked how  many dentists  and hygienists  are in                                                               
rural Alaska, and how more can be attracted.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. BAUER replied  that most hygienists in rural  Alaska would be                                                               
employed  by the  Alaska Native  Medical Center;  there are  some                                                               
Anchorage dentists who fly out  to rural communities on a regular                                                               
basis.  She  added  that  several   states  currently  allow  the                                                               
restorative hygiene measures proposed by the bill.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:12:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  OBERMEYER referenced  an informational  packet  to show  the                                                               
number of dental  hygienists by region in  Alaska, which reflects                                                               
difficulties in the rural areas in terms of population.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:14:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MIKE BOOTH,  president of the  Alaska Dental Society  (ADS), said                                                               
that educating rural Alaskans about  proper hygiene is one of the                                                               
greatest challenges  facing the  state, and dental  auxiliary use                                                               
should be broadened.  SB 98 and HB 136 will  broaden the scope of                                                               
duties, but the fast pace  of the hearings has hampered necessary                                                               
discussion.  He  then suggested several improvements  to the bill                                                               
which will  lead to the  full support  of the ADS,  including the                                                               
categorization of local anesthesia.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
He added  that the  UA Anchorage dental  hygiene program  has the                                                               
facilities to accommodate many more  students, and should receive                                                               
the funding to do so.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:18:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JIM TULLE, Executive  Director of the ADS, said  he was available                                                               
for questions.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
ROYANN   ROYER,   representing   herself,  explained   her   work                                                               
background  and said  that the  expanded functions  covered under                                                               
the  bill will  increase  the number  of  dental patients  served                                                               
daily. A  typical village trip takes  about a week, so  sending a                                                               
hygienist ahead of time would allow  much more work to be done in                                                               
a shorter  period of time;  hygienists possess the  education and                                                               
qualifications  for expanded  functions,  and  students could  be                                                               
mentored in  these positions.  SB 98 could  be put  into practice                                                               
immediately.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:22:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GLENN  MARTIN,  representing  himself, related  his  dental  work                                                               
experience  and   said  that  he  strongly   supports  the  bill;                                                               
collaborative  agreement  would  greatly increase  efficiency  by                                                               
identifying  need  in advance.  The  dental  profession needs  to                                                               
start utilizing its mid-level practitioners.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:25:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARY CERNEY, representing herself, related  her work history as a                                                               
dental hygienist, explained the  steps and education necessary to                                                               
practice  dental hygiene  in  the United  States,  and said  that                                                               
hygienists would have to have  an Alaskan license acquired either                                                               
through examination or endorsement.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
She  added that  the bill  addresses a  health care  need in  the                                                               
general population, and would have  a profound effect not only on                                                               
rural but urban towns. SB 98  will improve overall health care in                                                               
the state, and she encouraged the  committee to pass the bill out                                                               
of committee.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:31:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAVID  LOGAN, Legislative  Chair for  the Alaska  Dental Society,                                                               
said that  a couple of  changes may  eventually be needed  in the                                                               
bill but that it should be passed out of the committee.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DAVIS said that she  was unaware of any proposed amendments                                                               
to the bill.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. LOGAN  explained the changes  he wished  to see in  the bill,                                                               
including the provision for general anesthetic.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:34:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
NATHAN  LUKES, representing  himself, expressed  his support  for                                                               
the bill and related a personal story about dental hygienists.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  DAVIS  said  that  there appeared  to  be  some  confusion                                                               
regarding changes to  the bill, and her intention was  to keep it                                                               
in committee.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being  no further  business to  come before  the committee,                                                               
she adjourned the meeting at 2:36:53 PM.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

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